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How to Build a High-Frequency Business w/o Burnout: Detoxing from Hustle Culture with Jenna Harrison

Jaclyn Steele Thurmond Season 7 Episode 224

Is hustle culture draining your energy and creativity? In this powerful episode of The Freq Show, Jaclyn and Sam sit down with Jenna Harrison — business coach, frequency-minded entrepreneur, and Mediterranean lifestyle queen — to explore how to detox from hustle, reclaim your time, and still grow a wildly successful business.

Jenna shares how she transitioned from burnout to a 3-day workweek by prioritizing energy, intuition, and alignment over constant busyness. They unpack how overdoing blocks your ability to receive, the importance of systems that support spaciousness, and why constraint can actually be your next-level growth strategy.
If you're craving more flow, freedom, and fulfillment in both your life and your business — this one’s for you.

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How hustle overrides your intuition
Why 3-day workweeks can accelerate growth
What it really takes to run a high-frequency business
Jenna’s family moved to the Mediterranean (and how it changed everything)

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Jaclyn: 1:00

Hello and welcome to The Freq Show. I am very excited today to welcome our guest Jenna Harrison. She is a coach and somebody who has recovered from burnout and she's an entrepreneur and so I'm so excited to have you on the show today to chat entrepreneurship and burnout and hustle culture and all of those things so thank you for being here today and thank you for withstanding the technical difficulties we had at the beginning. 


Jenna: 1:27

Yes, yes, we're about a half hour off from when we started, but I think that's just been like great preamble, so thank you for having me on. I'm so glad to be here and actually hear you


Jaclyn: 1:39

Oh, I know that was the thing we couldn't hear each other, so yeah, let's launch right in. What was your personal wake-up call that made you realize hustle culture wasn't working for you anymore?


Jenna: 1:52

Yeah it is so amazing how things sometimes can happen just in a flash and for me it was the time it took me to walk upstairs so to set the scene I was a person that really was born with a strong sense of purpose and calling but I could not articulate that purpose for the life of me and by the time I finally did and built a business around it I was so driven to be successful in that finally and then I'd also had a child so I was very driven to be a great mom and so it had me working 7 days a week during nap times and evenings for 2 years straight and I only took 1 evening off which was a movie night with my husband but only because I felt so guilty about being an absent wife so that was the space that I was in when I was walking up the stairs one night and we'd had dinner together and I was heading up to work and my husband was gonna watch some TV and he said have a good night and I said yeah must be nice in this like low voice and in that instant I kind of surprised myself with that and I thought whoa! I don't like that person who said that I don't like who I'm becoming and all of these thoughts started flashing through my mind but I thought why in the world what part of me wouldn't want him to rest right would want him to also be working at night and why did I somehow feel that better about myself by being the one who was working so hard so I had all of these thoughts going through my mind and that is just when I realized you know what I told myself I'd only work like this until I made my first hundred thousand but guess what now I'm here and I'm still doing it and so it must be something else and that is what really opened the door to my inquiry and exploration 


Jaclyn: 3:10

Yeah, well, I can totally relate to that I think my husband and I you know we've both been entrepreneurs now me full time since oh gosh like 2012 and then Sam full time starting at the end of 2018 so it's been a long time but I think there's something within both of us that has had such a connection to our self worth with our productivity that yes it has been such a process to undo some of those limiting beliefs that only when we are productive are we of value so I'm interested to hear a little bit more about your story and how you run your business in 3days a week which is pretty much the dream for any entrepreneur so can you walk us through what had to shift energetically for that to become your reality.


Jenna: 4:05

Yes, absolutely, it did not happen overnight. I didn't really have anyone that could model this for me, everyone around me was also in the hustle culture and really glorified the hustle culture, except for my husband, but he didn't. he was not an entrepreneur, he was in the military.


Jaclyn: 4:23

Well and but that's so interesting too, cause he's in the military or was in the military, and there's so much you know regimented time and energy but I guess with that too it could be like here's my work time here's my off time and it's a very clear delineation.


Jenna: 4:39

Yes so after the Gulf War there was a big push back here in the states when they were back in the states in the army anyway to really be able to refresh and have family time because they were having huge retention issues there were so many people that were leaving the army because their families just never saw their their spouses anymore that's terrible and so they really wanted to help people reconnect and my husband is you know he's smart he's very efficient and so he was just always able to manage his time really well and felt that others weren't managing their time very well when they were working the late hours so I do thank him for that but he also was very much tied to the 4 or 5 I'm sorry the 5 or 6 day weeks yeah like that was the norm for him it was a stretch for both of us to ever think about working less than that so since I didn't have anyone really around me to show that it was possible I noticed myself really ping ponging back and forth so I would make some progress but then I would fill up the time that I had created through efficiencies with more work right with more projects. 


Jaclyn: 5:52

Oh my gosh, I know how that goes. I know how that goes. 


Jenna: 5:56

Yes, and what was amazing was that when I was taking time off, my business was growing whether that was me consciously reducing my hours or other periods of my life where, for instance, when Covid hit I was in we were moving cross country at the same time, so I was in a hotel room with my two year old for two months and I just could not work as much yeah.


Jaclyn: 6:21

In a hotel room with a two-year-old, that is brutal.


Jenna: 6:25

But my business grew during that time and so you'd think I would get the memo right but the patterns Jaclyn are just so ingrained deep in your body that it is really challenging to shift and I think the biggest shifts once I did the coaching got the therapy worked with energy healers did all the things was that I really needed to learn to receive and allow which was really challenging for me because all of my success in the past had come from doing and making the things happen but then also understanding just how powerful I was and I think what we don't realize when we're working so much is that underneath there's some scarcity there's some fear.


Jaclyn: 7:15

Oh huge!


Jenna: 7:16

That’s driving us to do it yes and so we're really not recognizing our power when we think it takes us that long or when we need to do things a certain way or jump through certain hoops we're not really recognizing the value of what we offer and how much support we have from the universe to create whatever we're here to create.


Jaclyn: 7:40

That makes so much sense so what do you feel like what was can you whittle it down to a specific thought and how you undid that thought or a new mantra that you brought in because to go from working 7 days a week down to 3 is a pretty big jump and you have a two year old which I can relate I have a three year old and then I'm due with another in a couple of months so I have my hands full but how did you make that transition mentally. 


Jenna: 8:11

Yeah, so I guess the most important mantra was just that, as an entrepreneur, time does not create my success my value the value that I create is what determines my success.


Jaclyn: 8:28

That is so powerful my time does not determine my success the value I create determines my success and I completely relate to that I feel like I used to hustle hustle hustle hustle and over the last year I've worked hard but within very clear boundaries and I've seen more success than I have prior and I think there's such an energy that you carry right when you value yourself more you go into conversations with a different outlook and there isn't as much attachment to the outcome or at least for me there hasn't been there's been hey here is my service here is what this interior design costs I would love to work with you but if not no worries and I just don't have any attachment to the outcome and that has shifted things a lot energetically for me so can you relate to that or play off the matter how did that work for you. 


Jenna: 9:24

Yes 100% so I love calling that your welcome energy because so often we get into the please would you please when we're in a sales mode right but actually when we really hone in on our secret sauce and we know that our people love that then this may or may not be your person but you know that if you're speaking to that person then there's no convincing necessary and there's really a huge gift in exchange when you're able to whatever the service is right help that person create the solution that they want and so when you're in that you're welcome like you are welcome that I can help you do this that we're gonna get this done for you that it's gonna create the thing that you've been wanting right and you're really joyous about how exciting it is then it doesn't feel like selling at all.


Jaclyn: 10:23

Oh it's such a frequency shift it's a needy frequency a like you said please to your welcome which is such a higher frequency of hi I'm here and I have all of this value to add if you wanna get on board great and if not that's OK that's it's just a huge huge huge shift. 


Jenna: 10:47

Yes and I think as well there's a shift with your relationship with trust and the universe because you get to a point where you're saying I want to welcome in these wonderful clients right these goals that I have for the year and in this amount of time and you have this you can rely on the fact that that can be created if you've put it into the world into your thoughts and intentions then it can come to pass yeah you have to do your human part and figure out right how to how to help out from your end but there's not a doubt that it can happen.


Jaclyn: 11:29

We call that the frequency of belief here and that's basically what this podcast sprung out of and it was during a really hard time in our business where we were just it was challenge after challenge after challenge but we kept making it work and I went what what happened here because a few years ago we would have faced this and crumbled and I felt god tell me it's the frequency of belief and it's knowing what you want taking action on it which is a key part and then believing relentlessly that it's possible and that it will be yours and I think where people get a little caught up is that people have difficulty believing in themselves in the first place which if you've never done something before it's very hard to believe in yourself until you start to do it and see the effects of it right my dad always says competence breeds confidence and so I always encourage people even if you don't believe in yourself right away just take a couple steps and see what happens.


Jenna: 12:30

Yeah.


Jaclyn: 12:32

And then the other part that I think people get tripped up in is that things do take a little time now I don't wanna limit anyone things can change overnight and we can establish boundaries overnight and we can see success overnight but in my case and in my husband's case it took time to grow our business and time to have really healthy boundaries and time to reflect and see hey this is really working this is not working and then integrating all of that and it sounds like you experienced that with a lot of success early on but you were grinding grinding grinding and then you had that moment with your husband where you felt like you didn't want him to be able to rest because you weren't able to rest and you realize like the journey of entrepreneurship is just that it's a journey it's not a hey today is this and tomorrow is this there are a lot of steps in between so, going back to your 3 day work week I would love to talk to you about how you structure your day to maximize your time because like you mentioned before your husband is really good with time management I feel like having children kind of forces us to become better with time management but I'm always looking for tips and tools and tricks to be better so can you can you just give us like a little bit of a day in the life of your work day and then maybe a short day in the life of a non work day.


Jenna: 14:01

Okay.


Jaclyn: 14:02

Since you live in Mallorca.


Jenna: 14:05

Yes yes we do so that is fortunate because I'm in a time zone where nobody in the States is awake when I first wake up so I really do have long quiet mornings where I can do my most important work in the business and there are no emails coming in there's nothing happening I do have some team members that are overseas but they we all understand our work hours and time so that is really really fortunate for me so really my calls only happen with my clients and then with my mastermind in a couple hour period in the afternoon and then I have very clear boundaries about when my son gets off school and when he comes home and that's when my day is done so it's really about um important work like I have a podcast as well creating my podcast reaching out to you know talk to somebody like you and then in the afternoon the last couple hours of my day are my client calls. 


Jaclyn: 15:12

That's beautiful!


Jenna: 15:14

And then on a non work day yeah on an off day then that's where I'm really um going on a hike with my friends for instance up into the mountains or I'm having a really kind of lazy lunch and having some fresh fish by the beach especially now as we're heading into summer my mom is here visiting right now so I've been spending a lot of time with her which is wonderful and I really I think you know in terms of mindset one of the biggest shifts I had to make was understanding that those times were actually also business development times.


Jaclyn: 15:54

Oh, isn't that the truth? 


Jenna: 15:56

I had to start to understand the importance of renewing myself in order to really tap into my highest creativity during those other three days, yeah. 


Jaclyn: 16:11

It makes so much sense I have some of my best ideas and inspiration when I've had rest and when I'm away from my computer when I'm away from my work to illustrate that in 2018 my husband and I have been married almost 17 years so we've been married a long time we got married in 2,010 but 2017 was our first no it was 2018 I correct myself it was our first big vacation together in 7 8 years that's a long long time besides our honeymoon and we went to Greece for two weeks after we had been grinding and grinding and grinding and grinding for years and years and years and we looked at each other toward the end of the trip and we were like why did we wait this long to allow ourselves to enjoy some time exploring and just relaxing because we both got back to our home and we were so inspired we were so refreshed we were so excited to get back to work yeah and then it took a few more years of like you know a kid on training wheels kind of sloppily figuring out a schedule but it still took several more years of us getting to the point of burnout and drawing back getting to the point of burnout and drawing back to where we are now which is we have a 3 year old we have another baby on the way and so there's so much beyond us that is an incentive to have very healthy boundaries and to have downtime because we want to have that energy for our son yeah we want to have that energy for baby no.2 and we absolutely love what we do and we have the energy to be able to pour back into that too. 


Jenna: 18:08

Yeah, I think a trap that a lot of moms get into is especially when they have their own business is that they're they're working and they draw those boundaries and they move on to their children but then all of the rest of their time like mine was in the beginning goes to those children and that's not necessarily rest time right that's not necessarily replenishment time and then to carve out that third piece for yourself can be really challenging too so I like to tell people it's really about quality over quantity right you can even in this in very short moments I call it CEO time right you can start to build that in for yourself because that's really the source as we know we know so much about brain biology now yeah and we know that in that nervous system state when you are rested that is when you have your best downloads and also your highest problem solving like you can figure things out that seemed so difficult the night before when you were grinding through it and then the next morning you get up and you're like oh why don't I just do it this way.


Jaclyn: 19:20

It makes so much more sense yeah I often encourage people like if you're at a standstill and you feel like you're banging your head against the wall just stop for a while go take a walk read a book something along those lines but speaking to women my next question for you is one thing that we often hear right is if I don't do it all as a woman as a wife as a mom it won't get done so what would you say to somebody who logically gets the need to slow down but struggles to trust that pulling back won't lead to a collapse in their business or life or their laundry pile or whatever. 


Jenna: 20:03

Oh my gosh I feel that like I feel it so strongly I remember it so much and I think what you don't realize when you're there you don't realize until it's gone just how much pressure you're carrying when you have to be the one keeping all the plates in the air and how much cognitive load that entails right.


Jaclyn: 20:28

That's the perfect way to describe it is cognitive load 


Jenna: 20:31

Yeah yeah and it's low grade but it's always there and I think I'd always approach it with curiosity so first I would say is this just happening in one area so is it for instance just in your business that it's happening then I'd say okay well maybe there's a thought error that's leading to the type of people that you're hiring or maybe you just need some skill building in terms of how to lead a team but if it is a pattern showing up in your life elsewhere then it's said with total love because I've been there but the common denominator really is you uh huh and we really need to look at what it is that has you bringing in that same situation over and over again right because for all of us it's slightly different but it's most likely some ingrained belief or some patterning of your nervous system that even though it feels counterlogical it's actually more comfortable for you to be in that place.


Jaclyn: 21:40

Yeah, because it's what you know, it's what you know. 


Jenna: 21:43

Yeah, rather than moving into something else. 


Jaclyn: 21:46

Oh totally for me I know it was connected with worth because I felt like I had to have so much output to feel good about myself and when I started to let that go and just experiment with reading a novel like just as of a couple years ago I didn't allow myself to read novels and I'm a huge reader I read so much but I was like it needs to be about business it needs to be about spirituality it needs to be about personal development what reading a novel that's so frivolous and then I started reading novels and realizing this is allowing my mind to wander and be creative it's making me a better writer it's making me think about things differently with more curiosity there's so much beauty in following your Muse whatever that is and making space or like you say CEO time to do that and so I would encourage all of the listeners to if you can and I know you can separate a sense of worth from how much you are doing and start realigning your worth with who you're becoming and be proud of that I feel like that's so much more sustainable you know.


Jenna: 23:03

Yes yes and part of that work comes from really understanding that it's not it's not just something we should do right because so many of us know we should be more aligned we should be more high vibe we should be taking more time off but it won't really happen until you start to contemplate what maybe what might I be sacrificing because what if what you're doing right now that feels like life is maybe an 8 for you you know things are going pretty well you don't want to let things crumble because they're going so well right so you're keeping up with this pace but what if that's only a three hmm what if life could get that good hmm if you tried a different way.


Jaclyn: 23:55

Oh, I love that, 


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Jaclyn: 29:29

Okay, so next question, you mentioned that constraints or boundaries can actually be a tool for growth, not a limitation. Can you unpack how using constraints has helped you solve bigger business problems faster?


Jenna: 29:38

Yes absolutely this is one of my favorite topics right because right away when you talk about working fewer hours or constraining your hours the mind automatically goes to I'll have less success and in my experience it's been the opposite when you do do this it forces that higher level thinking that's really what you needed in your business anyway you just get there faster you get to that understanding faster and create that solution faster so I'll give you two examples yeah because I think that often people also fall into the line of thinking where they say oh well that's not applicable for me because either my business isn't big enough yet to have a team or my business is too big I have too much going on I wouldn't be able to have right to shorten my work hours so I'll give you two examples from both extremes one is when I was having when I was doing my seven days and I knew that you know seven days a week and I had my child and so I was putting out I was trying to keep up with social media back then I was on social media a lot and I realized that with the time that I had I actually had to be more concise with my messaging I had to be more precise because I didn't have as much time to be putting out post after post I really needed to create reallyimpactful content and then repurpose that in several places and in order to come up with that I really had to get very like measured and analytical about what was really driving sales calls now I don't think that kind of thinking and that almost ruthlessness in my ability to get very very strategic about what I was doing would have come that early in my business if I hadn't had those time constraints right I would have had the time to put out a post a day and kind of just do whatever came to me in that moment without really testing and verifying and thinking about the impact of all of that that I was creating and so that really forced higher level messaging earlier in my business to create more with less now I'll tell you the story about a client of mine who had a seven figure business and she wanted to constrain her work week but for her the largest challenge was trusting her team to really be able to carry the business for her that she had built it was her baby her baby and she had very high levels and high standards of client delivery and really it was really challenging for her to um like seed control in that way and potentially bring in failure or client disappointment but when you get into a a position where you're like okay we have to get this done and there's only three days to do it how can we do that at first it just seems impossible you're like I have no idea how I would do that but that's the kind of problem solving your brain is solving it as you're sleeping you don't even realize. 


Jaclyn: 32:57

It's higher level. 


Jenna: 32:59

it's higher level until you finally are you know at a yoga class or you're in the shower right or you're brushing your teeth and then the idea comes and she started realizing what she had to do right and it turns out she had to she had to she had been hiring people that were not going to allow her to step back because deep down she didn't want to step back right so it took her opening herself to the a different type of person not only she could find them but that they would really want to do that work and that they would love doing that work and working with her so there were a lot of like both mindset and energetic pieces but again if she weren't trying to constrain her work week she could have stayed in there micromanaging for years and years right she could have created more work for herself and not had to have come to those lessons in the timely manner that she did and she's I think 33 years old you know. 


Jaclyn: 34:03

Oh, good for her.


Jenna: 34:04

A lot of good years ahead of her. 


Jaclyn: 34:06

Yeah well. 


Jenna: 34:08

And I think, like our future excuse me, I was just gonna say like our future self, they don't, it's not gonna thank you for working harder, no, it's gonna thank you for building better. 


Jaclyn: 34:20

Oh I completely agree I think of Steve Jobs and Elon Musk and they were both big proponents of saying something to the effect of it's going to take as long as you give it if you give yourself 3 months to do this it's gonna take 3 months if you give yourself 3 weeks it's gonna take 3 weeks if you give yourself 3 days it's gonna take 3 days yeah another way of thinking about all of this for me too that I think was really helpful was thinking about how much I wanted to make per hour and let's just say okay you wanna make $500 per hour if I look at my time and how I'm spending it through that lens am I doing most of my time doing $500 tasks or am I spending a lot of my time doing 10 dollar an hour tasks that can be delegated to somebody who is very very capable who wants to do that work and that helped me go through all of the things that I have to do on a daily basis and go hey I think it's important that I come up with the social media messaging but I don't need to actually physically post it right I wanna be involved in my podcast in the content creation of it as far as the questions go you know finding great guests like yourself following up with people if I need to but I don't need to edit the audio I don't need to edit the video I don't need to be on YouTube posting all of it I used to do every single piece yes and allowing myself to think about things in those terms like $500 an hour task or thousand dollar an hour task versus tasks that can be handed off also helped me really organize my day in a different way. 


Jenna: 36:19

Hmm, I love that. 


Jaclyn: 36:20

And it will it just created so much more flexibility and so much more time for me to be working on the things that bring me joy you know some people love doing social media management I hate it sucks the life out of me and I think we should be spending most of our time ideally in our zone of genius where we are creating that high vibrational energy where we're creating more value for other people um and if we're caught in those things constantly that are holding us back then it's not a good use of our time. 


Jenna: 36:59

Oh my gosh, and don't you find that when you're thinking that way, as well you drop certain projects. 


Jaclyn: 37:06

Oh, for sure. 


Jenna: 37:07

Realize that I, what, why would I, my if my time is more precious than anything, is this something I wanna spend my time on, you know. 


Jaclyn: 37:24

Oh I couldn't agree more could not agree more okay I have a couple more questions for you before we wrap this up because I want to be very respectful of your time I wanna talk to you a little bit about the Mediterranean because it's so close to my heart my favorite places in the world are Greece and Italy you're in Mallorca which is an island off of Spain. 


Jenna: 37:40

Yes. 


Jaclyn: 37:40

What intentional lifestyle changes did that move allow for, and how has it influenced your business energy and decisions? 


Jenna: 37:49

I love this, yeah, we very intentionally wanted to live a Blue Zone lifestyle, have you heard about 


Jaclyn: 37:57

Oh, of course! Yes!


Jenna: 38:00

Yes yes so there are certain commonalities in all of these places with high longevity and part of that is walking up and down hills all day another part is having a really strong community where you  you know are constantly every day seeing these people and sharing lives with people healthy eating and really a slower pace right and so 


Jaclyn: 38:28

Much slower pace. 


Jenna: 38:29

Much slower pace so all of those are things where we check the box here and in fact when we first moved to Mallorca we were in a suburb we were renting and trying to decide where we wanted to live and we realized that we had moved to a suburb where you needed a car to drive everywhere and you didn't really know your neighbors and we realized we were recreating the same lifestyle that we had just left and so we intentionally moved to an area right near my son's school so that we could walk him to school each day. 


Jaclyn: 39:06

Oh, how sweet. 


Jenna: 39:08

Yeah yeah it's a beautiful life and so many of his little friends live around here and we can walk to the beach and we can walk to restaurants and we don't need to get into our car unless we're going to the airport or you know someplace further away so that is at that and this strong sense of community when people come to a place like an island you know people are just in really good mood.


Jaclyn: 39:39

Yeah. 


Jenna: 39:39

Typically right there's a lot of people either on vacation or moving here intentionally because they want this kind of life whether they're moving here from mainland Spain or another country in Europe or anywhere in the world people come here in order to find the place that has these values that they cherish and it's very easy therefore to find really like minded people and to create families like created families you know what I mean. 


Jaclyn: 40:13

Yeah, it's very intentional, so do you feel like this move will be permanent for you guys?


Jenna: 40:18

Yes, yeah, I do yeah. 


Jaclyn: 40:21

For anyone living in the States I relate to what you're saying when I move to Arizona you know it's a sunny place and the summers are hot but there are so many people who intentionally moved here for the lifestyle to be outdoors to have sunshine to have great weather for the majority of the year and so I have found that this is probably the happiest place I've ever lived but for somebody living in let's say New York City or LA and they're not in a blue zone they're in the opposite of a blue zone or maybe they're in a rural area where you know they do have to get in their car constantly to get where they need to what would be a couple of tips that you would say that you can integrate no matter where you live to experience that which will lead into my next question but that nervous system sense of peace. 


Jenna: 41:14

Oh my gosh, I have such a good one for this, so glad you asked, because I was that person. 


Jaclyn: 41:21

Yeah.


Jenna: 41:22

So we lived in Pennsylvania very gray winters very rainy and we lived in the middle of cow country central Pennsylvania there was really nothing around us and I remember once we my son is very very active and so we have to find ways for him to just move his body and they happened to have a fair going on on the military base where we were living and they had a bouncy castle so we're like done we're definitely bringing him there so he can bounce around for a while but I wasn't happy about it it wasn't where I wanted to be and I remember my husband and I were we kind of laid down in the grass just feeling like we just have to be here so that our son can bounce and as I was laying there I had this thought and I thought you know what if I were in Mallorca right now I wouldn't really necessarily be doing anything differently I'd be laying here probably on a beach or something and I would just be I would just be I just be and so I closed my eyes and you know I just smelled the sea salt and I just felt the grass beneath me and I just pretended that I was in a different place in a really slow place and Jaclyn could you not I nudged my husband I'm like Ben you have to try this and two minutes later we felt like we had had a mini vacation so that is a recommendation that I then started implementing myself but mini vacations are in our power at any time of the day no matter where we are. 


Jaclyn: 43:10

Oh I love that our minds are just so powerful and I find like a lunch break is like a mini vacation for me I'll make a beautiful lunch for myself and then I will eat it leisurely and not worry about getting right back to work but then when I do go back to work later in the afternoon I feel refreshed I feel excited I feel alive so oh I just relate to that so so much and I love the concept of like a mini vacation. 


Jenna: 43:43

Yes yeah. 


Jaclyn: 43:45

So I wanna ask you a little bit more about uh nervous system how can someone who is on the verge of burnout who is so deep within that hustle culture and I live in I live in Scottsdale which is very busy there's a lot of opportunity here there's a lot of livelinesspeople are go go go go go go go what would be like step 1 2 3 that you would say to somebody in that position to help regulate their nervous system because as we talked about earlier when we start to regulate our nervous system not only do we think higher frequency thoughts and feel betterbut also that's when our bodies heal from stress from illness from everything else so even if you know somebody isn't ready to transition to a 3 day work week how could they settle their nervous system daily for a few minutes or 15 minutes or whatever to calm down and just rejuvenate. 


Jenna: 45:04

Oh, that is so good, I mean, I wish that I could suggest a mini vacation for them, but you know what, I probably can't, and here's why might be too much when you're that activate you don't have access to the parts of your brain that actually allow you to slow down, and so, it's like a vicious cycle. The only solution you can come up with is more is more doing, and you're actually in a nervous system response in a fight response, and so it doesn't feel like I remember I had a client once, and I told her she came to me with you know, a time like this and I told her to take a nap and she got angry yeah she said that she really needed tactics like we really have to create her signature offer like I had talked about and I told her I am I'm not suggesting this because I have any agenda about how you need to live your life but I know where you wanna go I need to have you at your highest level of perform and I need you to get back to where you can produce at this level to get where you wanna go and so the fiyou right now like this the sensations that are going on in your body are part of a stress response you know your need to do more is all part of a stress response and I think that's really helpful because it's hard for us to see it when we're in it and it is just to be able to call it out yeah to just know like if I'm feeling this cranky with my husband it's a stress response you know if I'm feeling like there's no other way but to stay up all night until midnight and finally finish this email it's a stress response that gives you some space and then the second thing is when you're that activated which I have been unfortunately trying to meditate or trying to take a mini vacation it's probably not It's too much it's too big of a leap  You really need to because your body thinks you're being chased yeah that's that's what the limbic brain believes and so you really need to dance you need to do something energetic you need to work out and it can be as short as a 2minute song and kudos if it's really silly and makes you feel like really outside of your normal self but you need to move that body because it is the only way to communicate that you've created safety to your brain and then after that that's when you can finally meditate or take a couple deep breaths but let yourself shake out that nervous energy let yourself move knowing that it's a it's a stress response and then you can start to do the meditation or the breathing or whatever else to like okay thread is over we're safe right may feel like if this whatever launch doesn't succeed we're right going to live under a bridge it's not actually true we're safe yeah and yeah we're in sufficiency yeah and then where do we wanna go from her.  


Jaclyn: 48:44

I'm reminded of the movie Nacho Libre and Jack Black I haven't seen it the the ninjas they need to release their Wiggles and that's exactly what it is you know you also you see a dog that gets activated and it's barking at another dog and it's going crazy it's going crazy and then afterwards it shakes and it's the nervous system's way of going hey we're shaking off the dust we're shaking off that excess energy and then they're able to be calm again and I think the same translates to human behavior I completely agree in you we have an app called The Freq app And I have a calibration in there about dancing midday to reset your brain and reset your thought processes to just go, hey, we're gonna clean slate this rough morning, but it doesn't have to be a rough afternoon. How do we get from point a to point B, and I did the same thing I danced it out and it makes such a huge difference, and if somebody doesn't want to dance, they can shake their body, they can go on a walk, they can lift some weights whatever do some yoga. 


Jenna: 49:43

Do some squats. 


Jaclyn: 49:44

Yes, exactly, but I completely agree with you, we've got to be able to get that energy out so that the nervous system can start to settle down a little bit. 


Jenna: 49:57

Yes absolutely!


Jaclyn: 49:59

OK, I have one last question for you. 


Jenna: 50:02

Ok. 


Jaclyn: 50:04

Well, actually, this is two-part what does a high vibe business mean to you, and how can we measure success differently in this new paradigm? 


Jenna: 50:21

Okay so to me it's a business where you are really putting forth your greatest expression in the world which I knew I know you do oh thank you yes but also while the business is supporting you to have the life that you choose and I know we've heard so much we hear so much about the top 1% of wealth but I really believe there's a new 1% that's forming. 


Jaclyn: 50:46

Couldn't agree more. 


Jenna: 50:48

Where yeah, it's not about the wealth per se although why not have wealth, let's bring on the wealth.


Jaclyn: 50:55

Yeah. 


Jenna: 50:55

But it's really about the satisfaction of your life, yeah. 


Jaclyn: 51:00

The quality, oh I totally relate to that I talk to my husband about this weekly I go I am doing the work every day that I would do in my free time for free because I love it so much and I have such a freedom in my day to do what I want and if my son is sick I get I can stay home with him and it's not it's so it's not a big deal so oh I just relate to everything you said in this conversation last last big question for you is if our listeners did just one thing this week to raise their frequency and move out of that hustle mindset what would you suggest they do just one thing. 


Jenna: 51:49

It is just this thing that we talked about it's the CEO time and that can be 90 seconds or it can be a morning off but it has to be something that when you are thinking about it you know that it is creating your highest level work and thinking so you actually respect that time rather than feeling that it's indulgent or frivolous. 


Jaclyn: 52:17

Yeah, it's not. 


Jenna: 52:18

It's not, and it's done intentionally, but it also helps you either work out the wiggles, like you said, or tap into the mini vacation, or take your deep breaths, but it's meant to relax the nervous system and open your mind. 


Jaclyn: 52:38

I love that so much okay so Jenna I am sure there are gonna be people who are interested in working with you what is you know like a one minute synopsis of what they could expect in working with you and then where they can connect with you and I'll also link those things in the show notes. 


Jenna: 52:55

Oh, thank you! I work with clients individually and we also have a group together because I believe when you're doing this work it needs to be in tandem with other people who are also doing it to really help your brain yes really believe that it's possible for you and so it's a group of women where we work together on these themes and what we do is we really create the work week for you some of my clients don't want a three day work week they want a five day work week because they've been working seven days and that's fine yeah it's really about really creating your uncommon way and the name of my business is The Uncommon Way so they can find me at the uncommonway.com and we actually have an assessment on there it's a short fun little quiz to show you how much of your work week you'd be able to shave off using my methods. 


Jaclyn: 53:56

Cool. 


Jenna: 53:56

If you're curious.


Jaclyn: 53:58

Oh, that is so cool. Oh, I'm sure so many people will be so curious, yeah, there's oh 


Jenna: 54:06

Come check it out it's a fun place to be it's a new way more and more people are coming on board with thisand it is just a fun way to really see what's possible for yourself knowing that if it's true that we are creators in the universe then why not create this with a 3 day work week. 


Jaclyn: 54:25

Yeah, why not create the life that we really desire? 


Jenna: 54:30

Yeah. 


Jaclyn: 54:30

Oh, I love that so much, Jenna, thank you so much for your time. Is there anything else that you want to share the audience before we end? 


Jenna: 54:37

No, we have said it all, it's been such a great conversation. I can't wait to listen to it again because there are so many great nuggets in there. 


Jaclyn: 54:44

Yeah, so many, I can't wait to pull them out too and share those little nuggets on social media, so I will end the recording, but thank you so much for being here. 


Jenna: 54:54

Thank you for having me. 


Jaclyn: 54:56

Absolutely!


Jaclyn

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